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     1Date: 29. March 2015
     2Time: 9.00 - 9.45 CEST
     3Location: <https://connect.sunet.se/enabling-users>
     4
     5== Agenda ==
     61. Status updates on work packages
     72. CLARIN-specific entity category
     8
     9
     10== Attendees ==
     11* Lukas Hämmerle, GÉANT
     12* Wolfgang Pempe, GÉANT
     13* Martin Matthiesen, CLARIN
     14* Sami Silen, GÉANT
     15* Timo Mustonen, GÉANT
     16
     17
     18== Status updates on work packages ==
     19
     20=== 1. CLARIN eduGAIN Integration ===
     211.A. Get a long-term agreement for SPF metadata inclusion in eduGAIN
     22Wolfgang reported that agreement was signed by DFN directors, next step
     23is to send it to CLARIN office in Utrecht.
     24
     25=== 2.A. Attribute Release Check ===
     26Current test version available http://earc.eduid.hu/
     27Quite some feedback received at GÉANT symposium even without
     28specifically announcing the beta version, most comments were received
     29regarding the rating mechanism. Needs some refinement, to be discussed
     30at separate VC on 5th April, 10.30 (https://connect.sunet.se/enabling-users)
     31
     32=== 2.B. CoCo/R&S support for CLARIN's most wanted-IdPs list. ===
     33A follow up in a few weeks to see if another reminder (sent
     34to the federation operators of affected IdPs/federations) could
     35further help improving the impact of the information campaign.
     36
     37=== 2.C. Improving error messages for SPs ===
     38Instructions:
     39https://confluence.csc.fi/display/HAKA/Shibboleth+SP+attribute+checker
     40An example SP that is set up like this can be tested here:
     41https://devsp.funet.fi/secure/
     42(Use username/password: teppo/testaaja)
     43Wiki page currently being moved to eduGAIN wiki
     44https://wiki.edugain.org/How_to_configure_Shibboleth_SP_attribute_checker
     45
     46Sami received some additional feedback on the instructions from Wolfang
     47(Debian) and Lukas (Mac OS X). In both cases they worked as expected.
     48Sami started to migrate instructions from HAKA confluence wiki to
     49eduGAIN wiki, which is a bit cumbersome due to the different wiki syntax
     50and other issues.
     51
     52One feedback was that having the return/target URL shown/added to the
     53notification email to the IdP admin is less useful than having the entityID.
     54As was learned, the SP entityID can howver not be set/used in a variable
     55by SP itself. Lukas added a feature request for Shib SP to have this
     56added in next version but it will take a while (months) to have this
     57version released and be deployed by SPs. Therefore, it would make sense
     58in the short term to set the entityID manually in the templates.
     59
     60Martin was confused by the attribute name prefix "SHIB_", which is
     61not used in the Shibboleth default configuration. The instructions
     62should use the values/names used in the the Shibboleth default
     63configuration, which would mean removing the "SHIB_" prefix.
     64Martin prefers script over web-form based solution to generate
     65instructions/configuration files because generating config for multiple
     66SPs is easier with script and script typically has to be run only once.
     67Martin would be interested in Python script (is available on many server
     68OS).
     69
     70Martin mentioned that this approach to better handle the
     71missign-attribute error messages will be discussed CLARIN-internally
     72soon. Ideally, Sami
     73is included in the discussion to answer questions that might
     74pop up and to collect feedback. If inputs from CLARIN is also beneficial
     75for generic deployers, these inputs should be taken into account and be
     76included in instructions later. Collected inputs/suggestions should be
     77discussed first.
     78Add perl script and template on Github and link it from Wiki.
     79
     80
     81== 2. CLARIN-specific entity category ==
     82
     83After discussing whether introducing a CLARIN-specific category
     84makes sense  or not, the consensus was in the end "let's try this",
     85especially because  the effort of introducing the entity category was
     86small. Wolfgang therefore set now the new (clarin.eu) entity category
     87value for the CLARIN SPs in the CLARIN SPF metadata. The new entity
     88category is thus now available  within DFN-AAI and eduGAIN:
     89http://clarin.eu/category/clarin-member
     90
     91The entity category is however not set for those few CLARIN SPs being
     92added to eduGAIN by other federations (than DFN-AAI).
     93Wolfgang mentions that ideally the entity category value (which is a
     94URL) should resolve to  a web page on the CLARIN web page. The page
     95should explain the use and  purpose of the CLARIN entity category.
     96Creating this page is something to be done by clarin.eu (Done)
     97
     98Impact/use of the entity category (regarding attribute release) has
     99to be analyzed in a few months.
     100
     101== Next Meeting ==
     102*  Tuesday 26. April 9.00 CET,10.00 Helsinki time
     103   https://connect.sunet.se/enabling-users
     104
     105
     106== Actions ==
     107* Martin to include Sami in CLARIN-specific discussion
     108  regarding the presentation/discussion
     109* Sami to answer questions in that discussion and collect points
     110  (suggestion for improvements/changes) to discuss at next VC whether
     111  to integrate them in generic instructions